These are meager amounts that are
supposed to sustain a family. The
mortality rate is horrendous. Every day
of 10,000 people, two will die because
of hunger.
When aid does come, there's a scramble
of people running towards pallets
dropped from planes or fighting to get
on the back of lorries to grab a bag of
flour. This man is 75 years old. He is
painfully thin.
>> Before the war, I weighed around 70
kilos.
>> Now, because of malnutrition, my weight
has dropped to just 40.
I suffered both a stroke and a heart
attack.
>> They had to put in a stance to help me
recover. I thank God my organs are still
functioning.
The Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin
Netanyahu dismissed the report as an
outright lie and said the problems in
Gaza are caused by Hamas.
>> For many Israelis, there is limited
sympathy for Gaza. This sign has just
gone up in Jerusalem's old city.
>> You lived in Gaza? Are you? And here we
meet a father and daughter who lived in
an Israeli settlement inside Gaza until
it was closed 20 years ago. They both
think Gazans should be evicted and that
Israel should take over the territory.
>> If someone
was try to kill your wife or kidnap your
child from the home was you're thinking
about if we hungry or not. Others less
strident but still dubious that Israel
has caused a famine. I
>> I think Israel cares. I think Israelis
in general care and I don't know find
any other country that's fighting a war
and trying to help them at the same
time. The the people.
>> The IPC report says death, starvation,
and deprivation are evident on the
streets of Gaza. But on the outskirts of
Gaza City, the Israeli military is
slowly massing forces, ready to encircle
this cursed place.
If a ceasefire is not agreed, then this
city of starving people will be attacked
once more. Adam Parson, Sky News,
Jerusalem.
Gileain Maxwell has told the US Justice
Department that she never saw Donald
Trump behave inappropriately while in
the company of Jeffrey Epstein and she
says she is not aware of any
incriminating client list. The comments
were made in interviews last month with
the transcript and audio recordings
released earlier on this evening.
>> I certainly never witnessed the
president in any of I don't recall ever
seeing him in his house for instance. I
actually never saw the president in any
type of massage setting. I never
witnessed the president in any
inappropriate setting in any way. The
president was never inappropriate with
anybody
in the times that I was with him. He was
a gentleman in all respects.
>> Let's bring in our US correspondent
Martha Kelner who is in Los Angeles.
Martha, there had been a clamor for
weeks and months for more of the Epstein
files to be released, but hearing that
snippet there, Donald Trump won't be too
upset that they have been.
No. And as you say, Matt, there has been
a clamor for this interview to be
released, an interview that Glenn
Maxwell did with Todd Blanch, who is the
uh deputy attorney general, so the
government's second most senior lawyer.
Six hours worth of audio recorded uh
over the course of two days. This
interview took place in Florida, which
uh is not far from uh the prison where
she was serving a 20-year sentence uh
for helping Jeffrey Epstein abuse uh
underage girls, although she has since
controversially been moved to a lower
security prison in Texas. Now, Todd
Blanch posted these audio files on
social media and said he was sharing
them in the interests, in his words, of
transparency. And the Trump
administration wants to be seen to be
being transparent uh over this issue
amid calls for the release of the
so-called Jeffrey Epstein files and a
renewed spotlight on uh the president's
relationship uh with Jeffrey Epstein. As
you say, though, he won't be that upset
with the release of this audio because
on the face of it, it's very good news
for him. uh Glenn Maxwell suggesting she
never witnessed the president being
inappropriate with young girls. She also
said uh that no client list of Jeffrey
Epstein's uh exists. She was asked about
Jeffrey Epstein's death. He died uh in
his prison cell in August 2019. His
death was ruled suicide by the FBI, but
it is the subject of lots of conspiracy
theories, lots of people uh believing he
was murdered as some sort of wider
coverup. This is what Gilen Maxwell had
to say about Epstein's death.
So, you think he was he was he did not
die by suicide given all the things we
just talked about?
>> I do not believe he died by suicide. No.
>> And do you believe that um
do you have any speculation or view of
who killed him?
>> I No, I don't.
Glenn Maxwell was granted uh limited
immunity for that interview, meaning
that nothing that she said uh can be
used against her in a court of law. Uh
her lawyer, David Marcus, saying that
she did not refuse to respond and did
not dodge any question. Uh Glenn Maxwell
though appealing for Donald Trump to
pardon her. Um, and you know, even
though this interview has been released,
it won't stop those calls growing ever
louder, including from Donald Trump's
own Republican party for the release of
the full Jeffrey Epstein files.
>> Martha in LA, thank you very much
indeed.
Here, the government's taken the first
step in appealing a court's decision to
remove asylum seekers from the Bell
Hotel in Eping. The home office is
seeking permission to intervene in the
case brought by Eping Council in Essics,
saying such closures must be carried out
in an ordered way. It comes as analysis
by Sky News has found that 18 other
councils are actively pursuing or
considering similar legal challenges. As
Shingi Marque explains,
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>> in the shadow of a hotel housing asylum
seekers indeed, anti-immigration
protesters on one side and
counterprotesters on the other, groups
separated by a road and a fault line
that only feels like it's growing.
There were similar scenes in Portsmouth
and Orpington on the outskirts of London
where there were clashes and tension.
>> That further fueled by a major high
court ruling this week stopping the
government from housing asylum seekers
at the Bell Hotel in Eping, which has
been the scene of multiple arrests and
protests. The government says it will
appeal the decision. This government
will close all asylum hotels and we will
clear up the mess that we inherited from
the previous government. We've made a
commitment that we will close all of the
asylum hotels by the end of this
parliament, but we need to do that in a
managed and ordered way and that's why
we'll appeal this decision.
>> And today more migrants crossing the
channel, adding to the asylum backlog
the government says it's doing its best
to tackle. aware of those optics, the
leader of Reform UK, who weighed in
today on the government's appeal against
the court decision in Eping.
>> Ask yourself a question. Whose side is
this government on? Is it on your side
or is it on the side of young
undocumented males coming into Britain,
too many of whom frankly assault our
young women.
>> This isn't just an issue in the
political arena. It's one on the ground
as well. Here in Leeds, the two sides
are just meters apart, but it feels like
they couldn't be further away. The only
thing they have in common is the fact
that they're both extremely passionate
about their positions on this issue.
>> I couldn't go to the job center tomorrow
and say, "I've got nowhere to live. Can
you put me in a hotel and I want three
meals a day and 70 quid a week?" They
wouldn't give me it. I'd have to fend
for myself. But if I came on a boat, I'd
get it all. And it's unfair.
>> If they passed the vetting system,
they're allowed here. What's wrong with
that? if they don't pass it, they have
to go home. At the moment, the situation
in Britain is terrifying. Um, the
prevailing narrative, the prevailing
story is that the problem in our society
is refugees, the most from the most
vulnerable people in our society. That's
from all the major politicians. that's
coming out of the media and that's
breeding the kind of violence that we're
seeing outside of hotels across the
country.
>> There are protests planned this weekend
and in the weeks to come with court
action planned by more councils too,
meaning this summer of debate and disqu.
Shingi Marik Sky News in Leeds.
Back to the US now. The FBI has raided
the home of Trump adviser turn critic
John Bolton today. He served as the
president's top national security
adviser for 17 months but was forced out
of the role in 2019. The search was
reportedly part of a national security
investigation related to classified
records. Here's our US correspondent
Mark Stone.
>> He has been a familiar face in American
politics for many years. The one-time
national security adviser for Donald
Trump. John Bolton. The two
spectacularly fell out in 2019. He was
fired, wrote a book, and has been a
willing critic ever since.
>> He doesn't prepare because he doesn't
think he needs to.
>> He doesn't do strategy.
>> He's not smart enough to be an
authoritarian.
>> And last year on Skye's Election Night
show, he predicted retribution.
>> Everything to Trump is personal. and uh
and and I think he's very serious when
he says that he wants to use the Justice
Department in the way he says it was
used against him.
>> And the FBI arrived early on Friday
morning, 7:00 a.m. at his suburban
Maryland home. They had a warrant and
went straight in. It's thought he'd
already left for his DC office. And
there was nothing subtle about this
raid.
Boxes taken in. The search, we were
told, was for classified documents and
potential breaches of national security.
Well, the FBI agents have been inside
his home now for around about four
hours, and there's been a little bit of
coming and going. You can see their
vehicles there. One four-wheel drive has
now been backed up against the garage.
Uh we've seen them too taking evidence
boxes inside. It's not clear at this
stage what, if anything, they plan to
seize, but as you can see over the road
uh in this corner of Bethesda, Maryland,
it's causing quite the commotion.
Just a couple of protesters, but with a
tagline, they represent many across the
country. Not aligned necessarily to
Bolton's politics, but of the view that
Trump is the danger.
>> Get out. Get out. Move.
>> At his downtown DC office, another raid
and boxes taken away. It's all believed
to be related to his book, The Room
Where It Happened, is a no holes barred
takedown of Trump, a book Trump tried to
block from publication in 2020. There
was an investigation back then about
whether Bolton had breached national
security in writing it. It was dropped
when Biden became president.
What's not clear is what new evidence
has prompted the investigation to be
reopened and the warrant issued.
The president says he was given no prior
knowledge of the raids.
>> I don't know about it. I saw it on
television this morning. I'm not a fan
of John Bolton. He's a a real sort of a
low life.
>> Mr. Bolton arrived back home midafter
afternoon. No comment.
>> Ambassador Bolton, what happened, sir?
>> And no comment either from the FBI about
what they found or what next. Mark
Stone, Sky News in Maryland.
The actor and director Null Clark has
lost his liel claim over sexual
misconduct allegations reported by The
Guardian. The newspaper published a
series of articles featuring claims from
several women. Today the high court
ruled that reporting was substantially
true. Our arts and entertainment
correspondent Katie Spencer reports.
>> Firstly,
my train is a ruin.
>> From bulletproof to Doctor Who.
>> I could transport out of here, but it
only carries one and I'm not leaving
you.
>> N Clark found himself cancelled
overnight when the Guardian published
sexual misconduct claims about him. He
says he's never claimed to be perfect,
but now lost a legal case against the
paper with a judge rejecting his claim
that accusations against him by more
than 20 women were false. Instead, it's
been found that Lucy Osborne and Shireen
Carlay's stories were true and in the
public interest. Certainly, he often was
in control of sets because he would be a
producer, a director, and a writer. and
that made it very difficult for women to
speak up about their experiences because
he was ultimately their boss. The
allegations against Mr. Clark ranged
from bullying to sexual harassment all
the way through to secretly filming
native auditions and unwanted sexual
touching.
>> You know, times change, people change.
>> Known for his gritty dramas, the
kidthood franchise portraying life on
the estates he grew up on. Null Clark as
an actor, producer, and director has
been a hugely influential figure in TV
and film. Just a few weeks before the
Guardian went to press four years ago,
he was honored by BAFTA.
>> Hopefully, people see that I've tried to
elicit change in the industry.
>> That honor prompting a number of women
to contact the paper. His behavior was
so pervasive and it becomes so
normalized in the industry. These kind
of behaviors were becoming kind of
normal behavior on his sets. um and that
not enough people were calling it out.
>> The police found Clark had no criminal
case to answer and struggling to get
work, he sued the Guardian. Now, 18
people came here to the high court to
give accounts of their experiences of
working with him.
>> It was profoundly moving to see our
women who had spoken to us for the first
article get up there and give evidence
in court facing the kind of questioning
they did. of these women were asked
intimate details about their private
lives, their sex lives. Some of them
were, you know, repeatedly told that
they were flirts, liars. In a statement,
null Clark said, "For almost 5 years, I
have fought against a powerful media
outlet and its extensive legal teams
over inaccurate and damaging reporting.
These stories started via anonymous
emails portraying me as a monster to
attract attention and outrage. The goal
was to damage my career, and they
succeeded. I've never claimed to be
perfect, but I'm not the person
described in these articles. Overnight,
I lost everything. The media outlet
didn't just ruin my life, they ripped
through my families. Also,
Guardian editor-inchief Katherine Viner
described it as a deserved victory for
those women who agreed to testify in the
high court, refusing to be bullied or
intimidated.
his career in tatters. The judgment now
also means Clark faces a hefty legal
bill. Katy Spencer, Sky News.
Some of the day's other stories now and
a number of people have reportedly been
killed and dozens have been injured
after a tour bus crash while returning
to New York City from Niagara Falls. The
driver survived the crash and is
cooperating with police with no other
vehicles thought to have been involved.
Around 50 passengers were on board in
upstate New York with some still trapped
amongst the wreckage.
>> And our team worked together to provide
care for all 24 patients coming in. We
currently have 20 of those patients
actively receiving treatment um imaging
um evaluation by the trauma service in
the emergency department and we likely
have updates later. Um two went to the I
believe the operating room and um we
have um several patients who went to the
trauma ICU.
The woman who was jailed for stirring
racial hatred online after the Southport
murders says she is considering legal
action. Lucy Connley was released
yesterday, having served 10 months for a
social media post in which she called
for mass deportations and setting fire
to hotels. Mrs. Connley believes police
and the Crown Prosecution Service were
dishonest in a statement released after
her conviction. We put that to the CPS
and Northamptonshire Police. The uh
force say they hope to contact Mrs.
Connelly in the coming days.
A serving Metropolitan Police officer
has been charged with four counts of
rape. PC Robert Wing will appear before
magistrates next week. The alleged
offenses said to have taken place
between 2013 and 2016 against one person
while he was off duty.
The Salvadorian man who was mistakenly
deported from the US earlier this year
before the Trump administration was
forced to bring him back has been
released from custody. Kilmar Abrego
Garcia had been detained on his return
to America. While he was eligible for
bail, he stayed in jail because his
lawyers were worried the government
might try to deport him again.
Police have arrested 100 people and
seized more than 50 weapons in an effort
to prevent serious disruption at this
weekend's Notting Hill Carnival.
Officers carried out what they called
intelligence-led interventions with 21
people recalled to prison and 11
firearms seized as well as more than 40
knives.
Now, dust scooped up from an asteroid
that's 200 million miles away has been
found to contain material that is older
than our sun. The samples provide a
snapshot of the early solar system. And
because they didn't have to come through
the atmosphere, they are more pristine
than any meteorite that's landed here on
Earth. Our science correspondent Thomas
Moore has been taking a look.
Carefully protected from Earth's
atmosphere in a special chamber. These
tiny granules contain material older
than our sun. They were collected by a
spacecraft from the asteroid Bennu. And
the first major study of their chemistry
shows they contain preolar grains.
That's matter from dying stars at least
4.6 billion years old.
>> It sort of really reinforces this idea
that we are stardust. So everything that
makes up our bodies and our planet
originally was formed in stars that were
ancestors to our solar system. And we
can really see that story inside the
Bennu asteroid by looking at these tiny
grains that formed even before our solar
system.
>> The sample was collected by NASA's
Osiris Rex spacecraft that intercepted
Bennu while it was 200 million miles
from Earth and scooped up 120 g of
material from its surface, which it
brought back for analysis. It's precious
because it is a window to the swirling
gas and dust that formed not just
asteroids, but planets.
Asteroids like Bennu are a time capsule
of conditions early in our solar systems
history. Meteorites that crashed to
Earth that contaminated as they come
through the atmosphere. But Bennu is
pristine, and that's what makes these
results so exciting. Space rocks
bombarding the Earth early in its
history are thought to have brought
water and the ingredients for life. And
studying samples helps scientists piece
together how Earth came to be habitable.
Thomas Moore, Sky News at the Natural
History Museum.
Next, it has been 10 years now since the
shore room air disaster when a plane
taking part in an air show crashed onto
a dual carriageway, killing 11 people
and injuring 16 others. The families of
some of the victims has told Sky News
they are still angry about what happened
and they fear that air shows are still
putting people at risk. As Amanda Aass
explains,
>> 10 years ago, a vintage fighter jet
plummeted down from the sky into one of
the busiest roads in Sussex,
killing 11 men. Most of them weren't
even watching the shore air show when
they were engulfed in the fireball.
23-year-old Jacob Schil and his friend
Matthew Grimston were driving to play in
a football match. They never arrived.
>> It was catastrophic really for all of
us. It's obviously just changed our
lives forever and
it it's a huge reminder every 22nd of
August
because it's
such a public anniversary.
It's destroyed our lives really
>> all this time later that no one's really
accepted accountability. That does make
us very angry
>> because
>> but not surprised.
>> No,
>> because that isn't the nature of um
institutions.
>> The 1950s jet came smashing down on this
stretch of the A27. A dual carriageway
which runs right next to the airfield at
Shore. The pilot, Andy Hill, who
survived, had been trying to fly a loop
as part of his display routine, but he
wasn't going fast enough and didn't
reach enough height to be able to pull
out of the maneuver safely. A jury at
the Old Bailey subsequently found him
not guilty of gross negligence
manslaughter, although a coroner ruled
the 11 men had been unlawfully killed.
The rules around air shows have been
tightened up since the crash with
stricter risk assessments, minimum
height requirements, and checks on
pilots, but both Jacob and Matthews
families believe the regulator, the
Civil Aviation Authority, still isn't
doing enough to protect people using the
roads near air shows.
>> It's quite shocking really.
>> It's definitely an afterthought about
third parties.
We we talk about Duxford
um and how they're still flying low over
the M11. That's taken a long time after
2015 if they if they still haven't done
it by now.
[Applause]
Some experts claim the CIA also has
questions to answer about their response
to a previous incident involving Andy
Hill after the organizers of the 2014
Southport Air Show issued an emergency
stop to his display because he flew too
low and too close to the crowd. The air
accident investigations branch later
found that while the CIA had had an
informal discussion with him, no further
action was taken and it wasn't reported.
Retired pilot Steve Coleman says they
had a statutory duty to have done so.
>> You have to ask the question, if the
Southport incident had been
investigated, was shorim less likely or
more likely to have occurred and I think
there can only be one answer.
>> The CIA told us they did investigate the
Southport incident and regulatory action
was taken. They insist all the
recommendations and safety improvements
in the reviews carried out after the
shore crash were fully implemented and
that air shows continue to be subject to
rigorous oversight to ensure the highest
safety standards. But the families of
those killed still believe much more
should be done. Amanda Aass Sky News
Shore
>> sport now and England have made a strong
start in the women's rugby world cup in
front of a record crowd at the stadium
of lights in Sunderland. They won 697
against the US in a ruthless display
which delighted more than 40,000
ecstatic fans.
>> As predicted, England's women absolutely
dominated against the USA tonight. The
final score was 69 to7. Uh we were in
there for a little while in the stadium
of light watching the action and it was
just try after try after try for
England. The atmosphere there was
absolutely electric. There are around
43,000 fans here in Sunderland this
evening to watch the action. And that is
predicted to be the biggest crowd ever
for a women's rugby world cup match. Uh
and of course it's only the first match
of the tournament. And the fans here
very very excited as you can hear and we
talked to some of them a little bit
earlier.
>> Amazing stadium. Amazing people.
Amazing. Oh yeah.
>> How are you going to celebrate tonight?
>> She's at work 7:00 in the morning. Oh no
spoons.
>> Have a cheeky p anyway.
>> That was good. Oh absolutely absolutely.
Yeah. Yeah. Thank you so much for
talking.
>> By pass all the English, the football
women do well and they always get
applauded. But these have been doing
well for years and they're getting out.
>> I know.
>> And now it's coming to the four.
>> I think it's really good. It shows how
far like women's sports going now
nowadays.
>> Well, England's red roses are firm
favorites to win the entire tournament.
They are number one in the world and
there will be packed stadiums watching
them as they try to pull that off.
375,000 tickets have already been sold
across the women's World Cup. That's
double uh the number for the last World
Cup and the organizers are hoping that
this will generate as much excitement
for women's rugby as the Lionesses did
of course when they brought it home last
month in the Euros. And judging by the
fans tonight and the excitement levels
here, that shouldn't be too hard to pull
off.
>> That was Casey Barfield at the Stadium
of Light in Sunderland. And that was Sky
News at 10. Coming up, we'll take a
first look at tomorrow's papers in the
press preview. As you can see, I've been
joined by Guardian columnist Zoe
Williams and PR consultant Alex Dean.
And in the stories tonight, we'll be
discussing this on the front of the
Times, its headline, as you can see
there, Farage will pledge five
deportation flights a day. We'll be
right back.
Heat. Heat.
hear that whistle and that crunch. We
know that they coming from the south of
the city where there's a column of
Russian armory. I'm Alex Crawford and
I'm Skye's special correspondent based
in Istanul.
Look at that sheet of flames. And that
has happened within minutes. And now
it's coming from both sides. And it's
moving this way.
Hello. There you are watching the press
preview. A first look at what is on the
front pages as they arrive. It's time to
see what's making the headlines with
Guardian columnist Zoe Williams and PR
consultant Alex Ste. They'll be here
with me until just before midnight. So,
let's see what is on some of those front
pages as they come in. The Mirror's
front page is leading on a plea from
Holocaust survivors to end the famine in
Gaza. The Telegraph leads with Lucy
Connley in her first interview given
since she was released from prison
yesterday after she was jailed for
inciting hatred online in the wake of
last summer's Southport's attacks. The
Sun also focuses on that story. Its
headline, I was PM's political prisoner
for a year. The eyes front page is
focusing on migration and how voter
attitudes may be shifting towards it.
The Daily Telegraph Express, I should
say, focuses on events in Ukraine with
the headline 1.6 million children stolen
by Putin's war machine. The front page
of the Times leads with claims from
reform leader Nigel Farage that he will
pledge five deportation flights a day if
he's elected. The FT leads with the news
that the chair of the US Federal
Reserve, J. Pal is paving the way for a
Federal Reserve interest rate cut in
September and the headline on the Daily
Mail. Galain, the truth about Duke and
Epstein.
As I say tonight, joined by Zoe and
Alex. So, let's get straight to it.
Let's uh Alex go to the front page of
the Times. Nigel Farage paving the way
for his bigger announcement on mass
deportations on Tuesday with this
interview with the Times today. five
flights a day of asylum seeker will
return or refugees will be returned to
um their places of origin or indeed as
the uh times goes in to set out in more
detail. Other countries there may be
third countries the Rwanda scheme may be
recreated, Albania is uh entertained as
another venue, the Ascension Islands are
discussed as a potential fall back under
the scheme. All of it meant to be
pushing back on um increased uh refugee
and asylum seeker um presence in the
United Kingdom. And the point is there's
a competition between all of the parties
now to say to the electorate we're
really serious about this. And um there
is this plays to Farage's strengths.
It's where he has played well in the
public for a very long time. And the
argument against Farage by the
mainstream parties has been well you're
not serious about it. You make noise but
you haven't got a plan. So here are
here's the flesh on the bones from
Farage and he will drive the weather now
like he will determine the political
environment yet again and it'll be the
other the other parties responding to
him will be the next piece of the news
cycle.
>> Bearing in mind what you just said about
what the other parties will say. The sub
headline on the times there's reform
leader says 10 billion pound plan will
save money. Well, it just so happens
we've had a response to that this
evening from Angela Eagle, Labour's
border security minister, saying Nigel
Farage is simply plucking numbers out of
the air. Another pie in the sky policy
from a party that will say anything for
a headline and it goes on. So, your
thoughts?
>> Well, it is interesting. She's probably
right, Angela Eagle. If you look at the
Rwanda scheme that I think that cost 108
million pounds per asylum seeker um with
actually no successful deportations for
people went voluntarily. So the these
these schemes never they it's impossible
to cost them because there are so many
hurdles to doing them. But that as a
response from Labor, the real problem
with that is they they're yet again
going after them on a technicality
rather than making the argument for not
dergating from the European Court of
Human Rights, making the argument for
the Refugee Convention, making the
making the moral argument for the fact
that just because the world is in
turmoil in a large number of places,
that's not the time as a civilized
nation to turn your back on it. Now I
completely get that far will make the
weather on this but there are huge
segments of the electorate who would who
are crying out for a party to say no
that's not the country we are and
literally nobody's doing that.
>> So I I completely get that you won't uh
like it and you're right there are
section the guardian leadership won't
like it. That's that that is correct.
>> I know but we're people too.
>> No I you are but you are certainly not
and I've said this to you before. You're
not Nigel Faraj's target audience right?
a chunk of the population that will want
it and the eyes got some polling that's
that increases the salience of migration
as an issue in the public mind. But see,
Zoe is absolutely right that um Labour
going after them on um technicalities
about numbers. You know, it's a category
error. I once watched a debate where
somebody was advocating return of
capital punishment, which is not
something I I agree with, and his
opponent said, "Yeah, but you'd have to
leave the EU to do that." I mean, you
you just completely missed the principle
point on offer here. And that is what
the okay maybe it's 11 maybe it's nine
you're arguing entirely on far's turf
when you're in that game.
>> Interesting if we are talking
technicalities and eagle statement goes
on the labor government has
substantially increased returns with
35,000 people removed from the country
in the last year alone but I think the
last figures on the number of asylum
seekers in hotels ticked up didn't they
so the technicalities can come straight
back at them.
>> Exactly. And and actually as soon as you
start arguing on raw numbers, then you
then you're saying 30,000 asylum seekers
currently housed in 200 hotels. If
you've got the public and the judicial
system saying that's not an acceptable
way to house them, then you've got a
30,000 strong problem on your hands.
What the really somebody, it's not going
to be the Labour party, obviously it's
not going to be the Tories or reform.
Somebody has to start arguing for the
fact that if you if you accept the
necessity for sanctuary at all, then you
need a better system where people can
work when they're while they're waiting
for their claims to be processed, where
they can live decent lives, where they
can lay down roots, where they can
support themselves. Somebody has to
start arguing for that because at the
moment it's a race to the bottom. It's a
race to the bottom of humanity.
>> A genuine question. Do you think that
the new Corbin Sultana party will do
that?
Um I I would put more faith in the
Greens doing it to be honest because I
think Coburn and Sultana are already at
loggerheads and I and I'm and I don't
have a huge amount of faith in the
people who are pulling the strings in
that party.
>> You touched let's move on very quickly
not on the subject but certainly in the
papers you mentioned the eye weekend
there Alex because their headline is
voter attitudes to migration toughen as
more asylum hotels are targeted. Just
beneath that, they say voters attitudes
are hardening as Karma faces mounting
protests over asylum seekers being
housed in hotels across Britain.
Pollsters have warned.
>> Yeah,
>> reform like the polls right now. They're
running high in the polls. This poll
plays to their strength, too.
>> It's it's absolutely manner from heaven
for for reform. But I will also point
out the irony of the Labour Party led by
a um long-standing human rights lawyer
who point who's argued for ages that the
rule of law is supreme. you must defend
uh the courts. It's wrong to impugn the
courts who now faced by a court decision
they don't like about the Bell Hotel.
Say democracy must rule the courts
completely wrong. We basically just
ignore it. Now actually I think the
Labour Party is is mad to pin their um
colors to the mast on an appeal against
the Bell Hotel in Epic. It was an
interim judgment. It's on a technicality
about um about the right of the owner to
change use of the hotel. And instead of
just saying, "Well, rock and roll, guys,
because there are plenty of other places
that we can try and uh put people for
the interim, the home secretary is
committed now publicly to appealing
this, they've upped the ante. And so
they just they've got nothing to win
here anymore. If they keep the hotel as
an asylum hotel, they'll lose
reputationally. If they lose the
decision again, they've lost."
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I you
know, the problem with the hotel
situation is that nobody's arguing for
hotels, right? You know, refugee groups
aren't into hotels. Everybody wants
there to be a better system of humanity
and and and kind of labor intends to
wind it down by the end of the
parliament by 2029 and and and do they
really mean by the end of the parliament
or are they trying to kick it into the
next term?
>> I can't understand what the government
is doing on this because they do have a
good narrative on some of this. So you
know can no longer come to this country
under a visa for a different reason and
then switch to asylum or refugee status.
Right? That's a change the Labour party
made. It would be popular if they
championed it. The Conservative Party
failed to do it after drum roll 14
years, right? They that something they
could point to not do that.
>> Very good question, right? But that more
people do that than come in small boats,
right? They come on a visa and then they
switch to asylum or refugee status. This
government's tried to fix that and they
get no credit for it because they do
things like appealing. Again, we're
we're conducting this entire
conversation as though everybody and
this I think leads back to the eye
headlines about voter attitudes
hardening. Every single media
conversation is conducted on the basis
that small boats are a the major problem
facing this country. B the major
problem, the major pressure on housing
and public services, c that none of us
have any sense of kind of you know pride
in offering sanctuary to people. D the
idea that all all migrants po like are a
drain on the system rather than and and
this is ridiculous.
>> No, I mean I just I just said that um
more people come and switch visa to
asylum or then come into but we're still
we're still acting as though every
single person coming to this country is
de facto a problem rather than possibly
like the beginning of a beautiful new
life.
>> There is a flip side to that. Do you
think that everyone who's protesting
outside a hotel is wrong or or racist? I
mean, I think that if you go to a hotel
and say everybody in this hotel is
posing a danger, a public order danger
and a danger to my society and a danger
to my family, then yeah, that is racist.
Yeah.
>> Good grief. Let's let's move on to an
adjacent story really because on the
front page of the Telegraph and indeed
the front page of the Sun features a
picture dressed in yellow of Lucy
Connley, I was Star's political prisoner
is the Telegraph's headline. similar uh
headline on the Sun which we'll show in
a second but the Telegraph and also the
Sun Cribs from the Telegraph tomorrow by
the way because it's the the interview
that Lucy Connley has done with Allison
Pearson that dominates their front page.
Let me just read you a couple of
excerpts from this. Uh she's described
as a muchloved Northampton child miner
known as Starmer's political prisoner
says Allison Pearson. Tory counselor's
racist wife screamed the headlines at
the time. Uh she goes on to describe
Lucy Connelly as a hero uh to millions
as well. Um what do we make of this uh
Zoe?
>> I mean you can tell that um interviewing
isn't Allison Pearson's main gig is the
first thing I'd make of it because it
makes absolutely no attempt at even the
most the kind of basic diligence of of
seeming like a neutral um and kind of
plausible interviewer to be fair. I mean
nobody. When did you last read an
interview in which you openly in which
you kind of take on a political figure
and and Lucy Connelly is a figure in
politics even you know despite the kind
of unconventional route there too and in
in such haggraphic and frankly sackerine
terms.
>> But isn't that why she got the interview
because she'd been a champion of her
throughout the the time of her
imprisonment? They they wanted a I just
think it's I mean sorry I'm I'm coming
at this like just in a fleet street way.
I think it's like really stomach
turnurning.
>> Well I I don't and I think there is an
important discussion to be had here
about um freedom of speech and I thought
that um broadly speaking bringing
offenses in this environment is wrong
anyway. I don't think she meant a
particular high. I don't think she was
inciting uh violence anyway,
notwithstanding her pleading guilty and
and the court of appeal upholding her uh
conviction any more than I didn't think
um the Labour uh counselor should have
been charged um for his uh throat
slitting gesture.
>> You're I mean you're you're you're a
recovering barrista as
>> well. I respect that she was pleaded
guilty. You can't exactly you can't get
you can't get somebody off who's pleaded
guilty. No, no, but you can you can
query you can you still got a you still
got a right to decide question charging
decision.
>> She was calling for an arson attack on
human beings.
>> Alison describes it as a nasty tweet
right the top and it was a nasty tweet
and in much the same way that I I
wouldn't care to spend time with the the
chap who drew his fing his finger across
his throat and said people should have
their throat slit. Um not I just I
wouldn't have charged the Ricky Jones
the Labour counselor who was acquitted.
Um so people have have compared the
cases and said there's two tier um
policing in the UK. I don't agree with
that. He although they did there were
different bail outcomes as a result of
their please. But he was charged and he
was acquitted right. So you know
straightforward
>> how did he plead?
>> He pleaded not guilty obviously.
>> Okay. Um
>> so
pleaded guilty.
>> No but I don't think he he should have
been charged in the first place. So I
was making a point about there is an
important discussion to be had about
freedom of speech in this country which
is why I was saying I don't just find it
saccharine. I might not have chosen the
tone that the interviews uh goes with
but in the end I think it's a very
important story.
>> Yeah. But come on at what point do you
say this calling for humans to harm
other humans is illegal? At what point
is that wrong?
>> It was it was rhetoric. I don't think
anyone
>> but but more to the point and more
pertinently she is described as a
formidable enemy that Kier Dom has made.
Do we think that's there's a there's a
case there for that?
>> I mean
potentially yes in the same way that um
unlikely spokespeople arrive because of
what's happened to them. the post subost
masters and so forth became the world's
most unlikely thorn in the sides of
politicians of
>> different no I don't think that I don't
think those two cases are you can draw
any parallel at all the whole point
about the subpost masters is that a
massive corporate injustice had been
meated out to ordinary people
>> appreciate people think an injustice has
been done to her you don't no no it does
change it it's not it's not just because
I don't think it's a huge injustice that
it's different this this is a person who
pleaded guilty to a charge.
>> Come on, Alex. You know exactly what the
difference is between all these cases.
>> I'm not saying it's a perfect narable
foe and my point was the unlikely people
emerge onto the political scene
sometimes not having chosen it, not
having sought it, but by dent of what's
happened. She certain and in that
respect she might be.
>> She certainly has some support. We've
discussed the substance of it. I think
the saccharine language that you're
referring to, Zoe, it might just read
people some of it as a flavor. She's
described as having a heart-shaped face
and liquid chocolate eyes and carrying
more weight than she would like after a
grim prison diet. Allison Pearson writes
uh in her piece uh with uh Lucy Conley.
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welcome back. You're watching the press
preview. Oo and Alex still with me here
in the studio and let's get back to uh
the front pages and actually both of you
two of the front pages namely the mirror
and also the express really focused on
the miserable plight of children in uh
in war zones. The mirror features a
striking image as you can see there of
uh a child Karim Muar who's just three
suffering malnutrition in a hospital in
Khan Nunice in Gaza. Stop starving
Gaza's kids is their headline as a
famine is declared official there. And
also the Express, 1.6 million children
stolen by Putin's war machine is their
headline. Alex, tell us a bit more about
that one. I'm really pleased that the
Express is running this because in all
of the discussions we've had about
potential settlement between Russia and
Ukraine and there is some improvement in
the narrative European leaders the Trump
Putin summit potentially a next piece if
um the parties can be convinced this has
been the topic that's been explicitly
off the table and so that the Trump
white house briefed in advance of the
Alaska summit that whilst they'll be
discussing other areas this is something
they would rely on the parties to sort
between themselves
1.6 million children stolen away from
their families, their parents, their
communities in Ukraine uh by dent of
Russia's illegal uh and aggression um
war in in Ukraine and it seems and I
completely understand the desire to get
to peace and it's a right that attitude
desire is right but you cannot ignore
the fact that you know a good chunk of a
generation of Ukrainian youth have been
stolen by the aggressor. The thing is I
the situations are are parallel. The
mirror and the express headlines. There
is a parallel here which is that all
these talks are trying to take place ex
without explicitly saying Netanyahu is
responsible for the famine and Putin is
responsible for these kidnappings. So
you're having, you know, especially with
Trump and Putin's bilateral talks at the
at the end of last week, we were
literally watching a a kind of summit
take place in which you know the
Vladimir Putin is not an honest broker.
He is not he is not in it to stop
suffering. He is in it to create
suffering. And exactly the same is
happening in Gaza. We have these
conversations like, "Oh, we finally
declared a famine." But we're not
talking about how this famine is
man-made and which man can stop making
it. And until we until we start having
that conversation, this is just going to
be really, you know, kind of it's just
going to foster a sense of impotence.
>> Russia invaded Ukraine. Clear good bad
uh axis. You on your narrative there
would acquit Hamas from any
responsibility at all. certainly acquit
Hamas from the responsibility of
starving
>> Gaza. You don't think they deliberately
starve their population, steal food from
the people of
>> I think Israel shoots people at food
distrib distribution points
deliberately.
>> Well, that is an assertion that you I
do.
>> What? You don't think that's true?
>> I don't think it's been proven. And I
think you saying it as if it's a fact is
as bad as you saying that that Israel is
responsible for starving in Gaza where
Hamas has systematically used food as a
weapon. you have both ellighted on one
of the most heated debates at the moment
just as we've got 20 seconds left I I'm
afraid so we'll just bring that one to
an end for the time being and maybe
we'll pick it up at half 11 but uh it's
a heated one no doubt about that uh
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